Blatant Insubordination: Uh oh, is Green Lantern Going to Suck?
- November 21st, 2010
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- By Rob
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***”Blatant Insubordination” is a regular column published at Primary Ignition by Rob Siebert, editor and Fanboy Wonder. The views expressed here are his, and do not reflect those of the staff of Primary Ignition.***
Have you seen the Green Lantern trailer yet? If you haven’t, click here and then come back.
So what’d you think?
If your answer was “Not Impressed,” it would seem you’re part of a vocal section of the populace, if not the majority. That’s a bad thing, because for a lot of the fanboys/trolls out there, not impressed = failure. After checking the blogosphere and the tweetosphere, I’m seeing a lot of “the suit looks bad” and “looks like a cheesy CGI flick.”
It’s not like any of us have much to condemn at this point, though. What do we have to work with? A few photos and a trailer that’s two minutes and change. Still, the nature of fanboys is that when they deem something unworthy, it’s officially boycotted. I didn’t think X-Men: The Last Stand was such a cinematic travesty, but because the majority rules, it’s now been by and large deemed a disaster.
I have an acquaintance who for months has predicted this movie will be a creative failure. My interpretation of his argument is that the film really isn’t bringing anything new to the table, and it’s going to be a typical origin story. When I told him the filmmakers were sticking pretty closely to Hal Jordan’s comic book origin, he countered that they could have tweaked it to make it a more interesting movie. I’m not sure he’s completely right, but he’s not completely wrong.
Throw in the fact that a lot of fans don’t like Ryan Reynolds’ presence in this film, or the costume he wears, and the folks at DC Entertainment are looking at a pretty hefty gamble with Green Lantern. Make no mistake about it, they need this film to be at least a moderate success in order to create interest in future DC superhero movies like The Flash, Zack Snyder’s Superman film, and any other non-Batman films they come out with in the near future.
To be honest, I’m surprised a Green Lantern movie got green-lit before Wonder Woman or Flash. I love Green Lantern, but I’m not sure how easy it will be for average Joes and casual moviegoers to take him seriously. Remember, this character creates giant green constructs using his power ring. Remember that big green fist you saw in the trailer? That’s what they’ll look like. In the comics, we’ve seen the various Green Lanterns create a lot of wild, wacky things. In a movie, that will likely either be extremely cool or extremely corny. It’s important that when Hal Jordan creates that kind of stuff, it’s not unintentionally funny. Personally, that one shot didn’t give me a great indicator either way. I’m a little nervous about that…
I’m also concerned about how average Joes are going to perceive Sinestro, not because of the way he looks or acts, but simply because he’s called Sinestro. I was talking to co-founder Justin Polak about this last night, and he jokingly said something to the effect of: “Gee, I wonder if the guy named Sinestro is going to become a bad guy?” Heck, he’s even got that thin mustache that cartoony villain characters love to twirl. One can only hope he doesn’t tie Carol Ferris to some train tracks…
For fans, Ryan Reynolds was a controversial choice for the Hal Jordan character. From a studio standpoint, Reynolds makes perfect sense. Most average Joes aren’t familiar with Green Lantern, so they cast Reynolds to sell the film with his comedic timing and good looks. But I think his inclusion irks a lot of fans, specifically men who feel threatened by the man with the chiseled abs who was recently named People‘s Sexiest Man Alive. We didn’t get that vibe (at least not to this extent) from Tobey Maguire, Robert Downey Jr., Hugh Jackman or Christian Bale. I’m sensing a general feeling that Reynolds isn’t worthy of this role. That’s not necessarily true, but sometimes perception becomes reality.
The way Reynolds handles the comedy in Green Lantern is also very important. He needs to play Hal Jordan as a free spirit, but he IS NOT Van Wilder. If we get Van Wilder, the fanboys (myself included) are going to balk at the film. Lines like “Let’s get these pants off and fly some planes” don’t exactly have my confidence soaring either.
And oh yes, the suit. Boy have we heard a lot about that suit. I myself like it, if for no other reason than it’s different. The idea is that the costume is a product of the energy that comes from the power ring. So it makes sense that it wouldn’t look like a Superman or Spider-Man costume. I think the fans just need time to get used to it. It’s obviously very easy to scoff at something this different. But a lot of fans have initially rolled their eyes at a lot of things that later turned out to be fantastic, including Heath Ledger being cast as The Joker.
Blake Lively hasn’t gotten a lot of love since this trailer came out, mostly because her lines sound flat as a flounder. Granted, we didn’t see much of her, so we really can’t judge her performance as Carol Ferris based on the trailer. In most interpretations of Hal Jordan’s origin story, Carol is portrayed as a hard-nosed boss, who happens to have a soft spot for this hot shot pilot. Lively was obviously playing up the tougher aspect of the character, but she still seemed very wooden. In all honesty, I’ve never seen Blake Lively perform, so I can’t judge her based on that little clip alone. But she’s going to have to do a lot better than that to win me over.
As much as I hate to be this way, my final verdict on the trailer is simply: Inconclusive. My appetite for Green Lantern isn’t any wetter than it was before, but I don’t have any solid reasons to think this movie is going to suck. For DC’s sake, it had better not. The Green Lantern franchise isn’t like that of Spider-Man or Superman or Hulk. If this movie is a creative flop, it might be another two decades before GL gets another chance.
C’mon Hal, you can do it. Don’t let us down…
Front page image from screencrave.com.





Having seen other trailers as part of a focus group, I can say that this movie just looks bad. The trailer they did release was different from what I saw and this one looks better than any of the other ones. My problem is that it all looks to be a mishmash of super hero stuff that I have already seen. Ghost Rider, Superman and some other crap that I am unable to think of at this hour. It seems so unoriginal and bland. Entertaining? Sure on movie night a year after this comes out in theaters.
I would also say that since this is a leaked trailer don’t put too much stock into the outfit being 100% finalized yet. In the picture above where he is in the apartment is new for me. When I saw the trailer a few months ago the effects for that shot had not been done in any way shape or form. It was Ryan with dots on his face and stuff so that they could apply the cg later on.
I am also not surprised they picked Green Lantern before the Flash and Wonder Woman. I don’t read many comics but color me unimpressed by a guy who can run really fast or a gal who can fly, is really strong and has some B.S. Lasso. Wait…with their powers combined along with even more powers you get superman…yeah fuck those two. Wonder Woman could stand on her own but from what I have seen in the few comics she has been in that I have read, she seems like a poor man’s superman. The flash though? Like I said…he can run really fast. Whoopy ding fizz! At least Green Lantern has an original power even if it is totally out there and fake-y crazy.
My impression after having seen 5 trailers is this:
Is it going to suck? No.
Is it going to be good? No.
Is it going to be meh? Yes.
Would a different actor have changed this? No.
Umm, it’s CGI because if it wasn’t it would look normal. Normal is not what a guy with a “Super Hero” ring looks like. How in the hell can people complain because it looks CGI? It’s going to beat The Dark Knight, trust me
100% with Steve.
I got that ‘VAN WILDER’ vibe too from the movie trailer. I actually felt a tiny bit in a panic when I saw the trailer because the moment I saw the trailer I really feared that it would be a total bomb.
Ryan Reynolds seems a bit too silly for the role. Green Lantern is one of my favorite comic books right now … I don’t want to go to the theater and have a seizure from disappointment. (haha)
Time will tell. Hey, at least we have the cartoon DVD right? (sarcasm)
i agree with this article i had the same feelings as well when i first saw the suit on ET it looks bad. but the real trailer makes it look okay. for example when ed norton’s HULK came out. i didn’t like the way hulk look because he look too CGI like boarder-line syfy CGI(and mind you that’s bad). but the movie was awesome when i saw it. and as i watched it more i got use to it. ryan renolds from what ive seen doesn’t really act like Hal. but mind you Hal has been known to crack jokes and be kindy comedic. but when things get serious, he get serious with it.
Blake Lively line was dull but me also haven’t seen her perform either. i also remember the trailer for jj abrums star trek trailer. when the new spock line was (i will not allow you too lecture me) that sounded dull and lame too. but when i saw the movie it made sense. same with keith hedgers joker. then i saw the movie and HE ROCKED. so i said that to say this. (FANBOYS & TROLLS) wait until the movie comes out. there making a 2nd one before the 1st one comes out. ( just like jj abrums did with star trek) so they must know GL will rock. and usally that it does. so i have confidence in GL. i liked X-3 that’s why i can’t stand fanboys crying. but i do see why they think the stuff they think. cause i do to. im just more carefull with what i say on youtube and stuff
@Steve
wow what focus group was this you were apart of my friend
So many of you just don’t get it.
The movie didn’t release this past week, only the teaser trailer. We were given TWO minutes of footage!!
As a die hard fan of the comic series, Ryan Reynolds embodies a good Hal Jordan. People say “Green Lantern is a serious superhero.” Well, then people never do read a comic if they state that. Hal has had comical relief in previous versions portraying the DC icon. I really can’t picture anyone else in Hollywood who could do a better job or nail the look. Bradley Cooper? Oh, please people. I’m fairly sure Martin Campbell knew what he was doing when he selected Reynolds. He was part of the process of selecting the new James Bond. When he and the studio selected Daniel Craig, almost everyone disliked the selection. Movie came out later and now everyone says Craig might be the best Bond yet.
Also giving crap about Sinestro is unnecessary. If people say they are real fans of the comic book series, then they would say Warner Bros. NAILED the look of the villain. And Mark Strong is one of the best villain actors in recent memory. And being harsh on Blake Lively is understandable, but she said THREE sentences in the entire trailer. Give her a chance.
Another thing that’s really annoying me is all the bashing of the costume. The costume is suppose to have a ‘space’ feel to it; something not of this world. It’s not like all the universes follow earth and want to have regular costumes. It’s a superhero/space opera we have on our hands. Everybody has been saying the suit looks fake, etc. but the CGI suit isn’t completely finished. I remember when everybody was pissed off about Nolan’s Batman suit a while back and look how it’s faired. Remember how bad Iron Man’s suit looked bad in that Super Bowl commercial? It look like it came out of a video game, but when it released in May 2008, it looked great.
All this CGI bashing needs to be taken to a halt. Green Lantern is 7 months from being released. The special effects people have plenty of time to polish the effects. Calm down.
Give it time, people. We’ve got a long way till June 17, 2011..
I just saw this trailer before Harry Potter 7. Green Lantern was a movie I had been hoping they’d make, but I feel like I’m actually a little more excited to see the Green Hornet movie.
In response to the part of this article about mainstream audiences potentially scoffing at Sinestro or some of the wacky things done with the ring, I was just thinking that I really hope they don’t do anything with the yellow flaw in the film. I think filmgoers not familiar with GL will be like, “WHAT? The ring doesn’t work on something that’s YELLOW???” Because honestly, when you think about it, that is sort of a silly notion.
I was/am a little skeptical of the cg costume as well, but I think I may be willing to give it a chance.
My main worry for this film after seeing the trailer is that it is just going to be pretty stereotypical and a rehash/mishmash of other superhero movies we’ve seen (like Fantastic 4). That was so disappointing to me, because I think a GL film has real potential to be different by going into detail about needing will power to use the ring and what that means for Hal. Then again, maybe I just like to see movies made to be really intellectual. Still, in the trailer there were allusions to the responsibility of the ring and Hal feeling unworthy, so it could still be unique in that way.
The general impression I got from the trailer though is that this will just be a really cookie cutter movie that was made by hollywood to maximize profits from mainstream movie goers who have never heard of Green Lantern. I may still be willing to give this movie a chance after seeing future trailers.
On a side note, I WOULD like to see a Flash movie, if they don’t screw it up too bad. I used to love the live action tv show. Forgive me, but I think being able to run and move really fast IS cool. Besides, with a Flash movie, I think they could focus more on a detective aspect of it, and I think that could make it cool and original.
Quoted for truth. I couldn’t have said it better myself. I will definitely be seeing this in a theater though, as I really can’t help myself when it comes to comic book movies.
Why does ryan reynolds play the same exact character in every movie? Yes hal jordon does crack a joke, but occasionally. The no pants joke just shows reynolds inability to act in any other manner than van wilder. This would have been fine for a kyle rayner, but not hal. Not the greatest green lantern ever. Overlooking the other questionable aspects of this movie is easy for me. Ryan cannot act and should not be Hal Jordan.
I really wish that people would get over Van Wilder. Big friggin whoop, he was snarky and sarcastic and a jacka$$ – who cares? He cracks jokes, get over it. GL isn’t Batman, he can crack a friggin joke; it’s allowed. I think people would be saying this even if he was playing The Flash and let’s face it, The Flash IS Van Wilder if you want to go solely on personality.
Speaking of which, GL is a character often criticized for LACKING a personality, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the studio wanted to give the guy some quirkiness to perk a newcomer’s interest. But I don’t care how his personality is, to be truthful. His powers are more important than his personality traits, so yeah, I kinda do want to see the “corny” stuff i.e. giant hammers, fists, other things made green and a whole lot bigger.
I also agree that the choice of actor will not effect the overall movie. If looks or attitude seriously mattered, they would need a Paul Newman clone.
Until the movie is released, I will focus on what parts of the trailer I DID like, such as the costume and the costumes of the other GLs, THE PANTS JOKE, Abin Sur and the really hopeful attitude he exhibits.
Sorry Sean but I’m forced to disagree. Hal Jordon while funny is not a clown. And at times his seriousness far overshadows his comedy. Even as a rookie you got the air of seriousness around him even through all the arrogance. That said Ryan Reynolds would make a good Green Lantern, if he play the role of Kyle Rayner.
I agree with the article that the suit should be cgi, and a different suit would be okay cause it looks cool. As a life long gl fan, I am going to see the movie, before condemnning it because of a trailer. If the fanboys hate it, remember you asked for Hal instead of a more Peter Parkeresque Kyle Rayner story, which would fit the green constructs and actor better.